Alan Moore Responds to Frank Millers ‘Occupy’ Rant

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Posted on: December 3rd, 2011

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Frank Miller and Alan Moore are two comics writers best known for dominating the late 80′s and effectively changing the landscape of comics with Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns and Moore’s Watchmen. Moore has drifted radically away from comics in recent years due to his distaste for the sales driven direction big publishing houses are going and a variety of personal reasons regarding the rights to a lot of his work.

Miller on the other hand has went into Hollywood and become a borderline parody of his own writing style, most recently typified by his anti-Occupy rant that saw criticism hurled at him by a sea of detractors for his heavy handed, thoughtless and extremely right wing slamming of the protests. Alan Moore has recently pitched in with his views on Miller’s rant, and he doesn’t swing and miss with this one:

“Well, Frank Miller is someone whose work I’ve barely looked at for the past twenty years. I thought the Sin City stuff was unreconstructed misogyny, 300 appeared to be wildly ahistoric, homophobic and just completely misguided. I think that there has probably been a rather unpleasant sensibility apparent in Frank Miller’s work for quite a long time. Since I don’t have anything to do with the comics industry, I don’t have anything to do with the people in it. I heard about the latest outpourings regarding the Occupy movement. It’s about what I’d expect from him. It’s always seemed to me that the majority of the comics field, if you had to place them politically, you’d have to say centre-right. That would be as far towards the liberal end of the spectrum as they would go. I’ve never been in any way, I don’t even know if I’m centre-left. I’ve been outspoken about that since the beginning of my career. So yes I think it would be fair to say that me and Frank Miller have diametrically opposing views upon all sorts of things, but certainly upon the Occupy movement. 

“As far as I can see, the Occupy movement is just ordinary people reclaiming rights which should always have been theirs. I can’t think of any reason why as a population we should be expected to stand by and see a gross reduction in the living standards of ourselves and our kids, possibly for generations, when the people who have got us into this have been rewarded for it; they’ve certainly not been punished in any way because they’re too big to fail. I think that the Occupy movement is, in one sense, the public saying that they should be the ones to decide who’s too big to fail. It’s a completely justified howl of moral outrage and it seems to be handled in a very intelligent, non-violent way, which is probably another reason why Frank Miller would be less than pleased with it. I’m sure if it had been a bunch of young, sociopathic vigilantes with Batman make-up on their faces, he’d be more in favour of it. We would definitely have to agree to differ on that one.”

‘Word’ Alan Moore :)

Source: HonestPublishing.com

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  • Hentaiike

    I am a fan of both Miller and Moore’s work but the problem with the occupy movement is that it often strays from its objectives and often abuses its so-called right to occupy places that they leave in a mess. Some have looked the other way as trouble makers smashed windows and properties during their protest. I believe this is the reason behind Miller’s rant.

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  • http://YourWebsite Andreiko A.S. van Koeverden

    Alan Moore is what god should have been : honest clear and defending human dignity in a highly social way caring for the chance poor born ))) Alan does not want to be a slave of the hollywood money masturbators who with the zionistic anglo American. Mr Miller looks like sitting in the ass on the chance rich born mainly money masturbating over the back of many others mainly with mean manipulated lies.

  • Matt

    I enjoy Moore’s work but couldn’t disagree with him more. First, Miller’s feelings on the Occupy movement have nothing to do with his work. So, why is Moore attacking the last 20 years of his career? Also, how anybody can show sympathy for this Occupy movement is beyond me. These over-privileged, middle class crybabies need to shut up and stop clogging up public parks, intersections and wasting mind-boggling amounts of tax money by forcing the cities to clean up after them. These whiners are a perfect example of what is wrong with America today.

    • Bad Man

      I’d have to disagree. What’s wrong with America today is corporate funded politicians & an unregulated banking system. Not people standing up for their rights by boycotting it. As for Moores attack on Millers work, I agree it has nothing to do with his politics. Except Holy Terror, which was both political & Islamaphobic. And utterly heinous for that matter. I was a Miller fan but it’s hard to defend him. And it’s hard to condemn Moore for stating the obvious.

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  • Rawwrr Enrique

    Frank Miller is still the best writer/artist in the comic industry.

    • Bad Man

      Not in the past 20 years he isn’t. I think Grant Morrison or Mark Millar took his title a long time ago.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/fadedSFmusic jeremy true

    looking at that picture of Alan Moore… i think they really need to tap him for Gandalf in the Hobbit film… :-) oh sorry.. this was about politics… ummm… fight the power!

  • Eris

    @Mike I think it’s perfectly fair to trash Miller’s writing. I’m not familiar with his other stuff, but it’s pretty clear at a glance that his Dark Knight Returns is a thinly veiled expression of his own radical right wing political views.

    My overall impression of Miller’s writing is that it’s just as hateful as he is. If the writer can’t separate his ego from his work, then neither should we have to.

  • http://chaotic-nipple.livejournal.com Mike Crichton

    Miller on the other hand has went into Hollywood and become a borderline parody of his won writing style,

    I’m sure you meant “own” there. Spell-check is no substitute for proofreading. Which doesn’t change the fact that Miller has become a sad shell of his former self,.

    • Bad Man

      Bah! Unfortunately a monopolized schedule craps on my limited proof reading time, so thanks for the spot. And yeah, Miller really has degenerated into something quite removed from the writer he once was. Which in his day, was definitely one of the best

  • Tom

    Turns out it is an excerpt from a multi-part interview with Moore at honest publishing.com:

    http://www.honestpublishing.com/news/honest-alan-moore-interview-part-1-publishing-and-kindle/

  • http://writebastard.com Ian Wood
  • http://writebastard.com Ian Wood

    Yes, insofar that creating a work, specifically, Lost Girls, consists of “advocacy.”

    Also, Alan Moore worships Glycon, the snake god, which has its roots in Macedonia. Popularity peaked around the mid-2nd century CE.

    (For those of you following along at home, Macedonia is quite a ways away from Mesoamerica.)

    The guy’s an anarchist magician. What do you want from him?

    Also, go here:

  • Tom

    Is there a source for this?

    • Bad Man

      I got it in an e-mail but I’ve seen it posted on CBM, BleedingCool & various other big name sites. Not sure who’s the progenitor?

      As for Millers politics, I’d say he’s hard line right to Moore’s left winger. & irregardless of Moore’s stranger proclivities it doesn’t change the relevance of his statement on people’s need right now to reclaim rights that have been taken away from them & oppose a banking system that has screwed the population over. I don’t care if the guy screws goats, he understands the need for opposition to the 1% while Miller on the other hand seeks to endorse them & undermine the protesters

  • http://www.soopermexican.com soopermexican

    I’ve loved works from both creators. I have to agree with Frank Miller on the politics of the moment, despite whatever I think of Moore’s works. Remember, this is coming from a guy who advocates all manner of the most extreme perversions including bestiality, and worships the feathered serpent god of the Aztecs.

  • http://www.southprojects.com magallanes

    I saw both the comic (self called graphic novel) and the movie. The movie is stunning, it is pretty amusing and most characters are charismatic. Graphically is amazing, the music is stunning (without reuse a popular music) and the direction is almost flawless.
    However, the comic while showing pretty much the same but it lacks of quality. Even page is lousy pictured, it is lineal and most of the time it is hard to know what’s going on with the comic (is only black or white, not even a level of shade). Artistically speaking, Sin City (comic) is just a regular if not cheap comic, only glorified by some fans.

  • http://necroangel.blogspot.com necroangel

    Sorry for my bad english DX

  • http://necroangel.blogspot.com necroangel

    In the basis that culture is not only a manifestation of mankind throught art, but the reflection of life itself, it would be pretentious leave politics and art in separated fields.
    Even more if we consider that every politic movement is within human nature.

    Regardless of politics, the system in wich we try to survive is more than obvious that people is the very foundation of it. And industry tend to fail upon this point, seing human being as a number as if it were not correlated to each other.

    Miller thinks that now he´s on hollywood he can make profit as long as he want, so he better be a part of the wining side. At least, what he thinks of winning side in a regular basis. Because he is a number too.

    You people, in the USA, occuping your own country is the most epic sign of life ever shown since the media makes us all blind.

    Greetings from Chile.

    • Bad Man

      Well said, & don’t worry about your English. It was fine :) I agree Miller has fallen into bed with Hollywood & become something of a parody of himself. He’s certainly forgotten his more working class/socialist roots, that were a lot more evident in his early prose. Which is sad, because as a younger writer he inspired my generation.

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  • http://mikedennisnoir.com Mike Dennis

    You know, I’ve never read anything by either Moore or Miller. I saw the movie of SIN CITY, and I didn’t particularly care for it, but that’s as close as I’ve come to any familiarity with either writer.

    Having said that, I think it’s ridiculous to trash a fellow author and his work on the basis of his politics, which is exactly what this is all about. Leave your politics at the door and let’s get on with the business of writing.

    • Bad Man

      Mark Millar said something similar & I totally agree. I enjoy Frank Millers stuff & loved his early Batman/DareDevil work. But I don’t disagree with Moore’s observation that Millers latter day stuff went seriously off the tracks, which is an opinion, not a boycott. His work aside Miller made the debate political when he threw his hat in the ring. & he did so with an amount of vitriol that was bound to incur a certain reaction. I would never boycott Miller’s work nor condone it, as a writer & former Miller reader myself. But his politics are deservedly in question.